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1939Coachbuild
10-01-2019, 12:00 PM
Hi
What does 761AC means
Its a small tag on the firewall

Thanks Tim19801

jdsnoddy
10-02-2019, 07:35 AM
Which car does this tag belong? It is the body tag number that identifies which body sits on the frame. John

1939Coachbuild
10-02-2019, 01:27 PM
Thanks John
Can you explain the body number, how it works
It belongs to C56C2573

19802

jdsnoddy
10-03-2019, 11:50 AM
Tim:
Another one found! Woo hoo! The last forum record of 2573 in the forum history was 1984.
Thanks for your reply. All the following info can be decoded by referencing:
https://www.markiiforum.com/showthread.php?4196-FAQ%92s-REGARDING-THE-MARK-II-REGISTRY-CODES-VINS-etc
(be especially certain to read the attachments at the bottom)
Also check out:
https://markiiforum.com/database/xxxxxproduction.pdf
The skinny is:
VIN: C56C2573
SPEC: 13-1F6M-127-15

OWNERSHIP HISTORY:
Nolan Motor Company, Inc.
Decatur IL
Customer name: A. F. Williams
A. F. Williams 1955-????
Jack Cloutier, California 1984
Tim Kirkegaard, Denmark 2019?-present
Tim also owns: C5601419
https://www.markiiforum.com/showthread.php?2062-1419-1955-Orig-Dealer-IN-*-Current-Owner-2014-Brett-Barris&highlight=1419

OTHER INFORMATION:
Original Invoice Specifications - 13 1F6M
(Forum Exemplar Photos Attached to Illustrate Original Paint and Interior Trim Colors and Specifications)
Continental Color: Deep Red (13)
Trim: Deep Red Leather Seat Biscuits, White Leather Seat Bolsters w/Deep Red Welts (1F6M)
Date of production: 12/7/1955 (127)
Sequence number: 15 (15) It could be that your car was the 15th unit completed that day. We don't know for sure what the sequence number means.
Tinted Glass
Front Bumper With Lic. Plate
Air Conditioning
Firestone Tire Size: 8:20x15 4 Ply
20 GAL GAS, 6 QTS OIL, - QTS. ANTI-FREEZE
Invoice Amount: N/A

1939Coachbuild
10-03-2019, 12:19 PM
Thanks John

But it says 1F6M not 1F4M so its another interior

I am going to get more info from previous owner

19809

19810

jdsnoddy
10-04-2019, 08:04 AM
Sorry. My bad.
Note edits above. White leather bolsters instead of gray leather bolsters. OBTW, I love the pics you posted and the colors of your interior. Thanks. John

To err is human; to forgive divine.

Don Henschel
10-08-2019, 12:05 PM
Seems to me in a previous discussion these firewall body tags after a while were discontinued as well?? In that thread there was mention that mine was one of the last that had one, correct me if I'm wrong on this.

1939Coachbuild
10-08-2019, 04:02 PM
Hi Don
Do you have a link on the previous discussion
I am just curios about the tag :-)

jdsnoddy
10-09-2019, 09:12 AM
Don:
This info of discontinuing the body tag is new news to me. I don't remember that discussion. I am certain Barry Wolk or Pat Marshall could help us out with this topic.
OBTW, does the "AC"on the body tag indicate a factory Air Conditioned car? As the number does on the side of the engine block? Please advise. Thanks. John

Matt Cashion
10-09-2019, 10:06 AM
I seem to recall that conversation but can't locate it at this time. I recall that the AC cars were the only ones with the tag, but I could be wrong, again.

Mark II Seeker
10-09-2019, 10:55 AM
Matt,

My car has a body tag but is not an A/C car.

Mark Norris
10-09-2019, 01:36 PM
Matt,

Same here, mine has a body tag (paint too thick to read it) but never was an AC car.

jdsnoddy
10-09-2019, 01:43 PM
Brian:
2897 is a factory air conditioned equipped car; is that correct? And your body tag does not have A/C. So can we assume that the A/C on the body tag has no correlation with being factory equipped with air conditioning? I think so. Please advise. Does anyone know if there was a meaning to the "A/C" on the body tag? And what it designated?
John

Matt Cashion
10-10-2019, 01:00 PM
See I was right-- Wrong again

Mark II Seeker
10-10-2019, 03:35 PM
Brian:
2897 is a factory air conditioned equipped car; is that correct? And your body tag does not have A/C. So can we assume that the A/C on the body tag has no correlation with being factory equipped with air conditioning? I think so. Please advise. Does anyone know if there was a meaning to the "A/C" on the body tag? And what it designated?
John

John,

My car does not have factory A/C.

Pat Marshall
04-24-2021, 10:02 AM
This post is late to the party.

The bodies were manufactured by the Bentley-Mitchell Company of Owasso Michigan. Originally there were two body styles, the A/C version with the nostrils and the non A/C version with no rear fender openings. B/M put body tags on the cars for some unknown internal control reason - the A/C cars were given the tags (although exceptions have been noted). Once nostrils were dropped, the body tags were no longer used (although at least one exception has been noted).

jdsnoddy
04-24-2021, 03:48 PM
Thanks for this. And that's why you're the Historian. :-)
V/R,
John