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rlafash
02-08-2019, 09:59 AM
I am new to the forum, however, not new to collector cars as I currently own a 1966 Buick Skylark GS convertible; a 1967 Olds 442 Holiday Hard Top; a 1969 Camaro Z28. I did own a 1962 Trunderbird Sports Roadster. I'm not exclusively GM!

I am consider the purchase of a 1956 Mark II. I have not seen the car although I have had the car "looked at" by an associate. He feels the car is solid and drives well. Before proceeding, I'd like to know how to decipher the BODY SPECIF. plate. It appears as follows:

05-56C-4-914-5

Correct information is appreciated. Thank you.

jdsnoddy
02-08-2019, 11:04 AM
Dick:
Welcome to the forum. Could you please post a pic of this VIN plate? That would make things much easier. Thanks. John

rlafash
02-09-2019, 08:11 AM
Thank you for responding. I do not have a photo of the VIN plate. I have been given information on a line of the plate marked BODY SPECIF. which has the following information
05-56C-4-914-5

jdsnoddy
02-09-2019, 09:51 AM
O5 is exterior Forest Green Iridescent
56C-4 is a DSO (Dealer Special Order)
I cannot locate this DSO.
If you have the VIN, we can track it that way.
Please post the VIN. John

jdsnoddy
02-09-2019, 10:14 AM
For example we have at least two cars it might be:
C5691281 or
C5691282
That's why we need the VIN. JDS

rlafash
02-10-2019, 12:06 PM
Got the VIN for this car C5691211

I'm also looking at C56K3416
I have located both vehicles in the data base, however the "codes" remain unclear.

Any assistance is appreciated.

jdsnoddy
02-10-2019, 03:04 PM
Got the VIN for this car C5691211
I have located both vehicles in the data base, however the "codes" remain unclear.
Any assistance is appreciated.

Ok. Kewl.

VIN: C5691211 or 1211
SPEC: 05-56C-4-914-5 (1J2F)
PROD ORDER NO: 204 (a)
DSO NO: 4
DSO DETAILS: SPECIAL TRIM: Deep Green Leather Biscuits, Medium Green Bolsters, Deep Green Welts, Light Green Headlining
OWNERSHIP HISTORY:
Dealer Invoice Missing
Information From Production Order #204 (B)
Date Shipped 9/19/1955
Clark & White
1083 Commonwealth Avenue
Boston, Massachusetts
Customer: Donald Holbrook

1955-?? Donald Holbrook (1)
1956-1990 No Ownership Information
1991-99 PAUL D. GUTWEIN 1991, 1999 CLEARWATER, FL (Green) (R)
2000-Present No History Found

OTHER INFORMATION:
Original Production Order Specifications - 05 1J2F

Continental Color: Deep Green (Metallic) AKA: Forest Green Iridescent
SPECIAL TRIM: Deep Green Leather Biscuits, Medium Green Bolsters, Deep Green Welts, Light Green Headlining
Tinted Glass
Front Bumper With Lic. Plate
HD Spring Rear Dom Std Export
HD Spring Front Export
Ignition Key: FL 157
Deck Key: FZ 005
Firestone Tire Size: 8:00x15 4 Ply (This tire size indicates it is not a factory A/C car.)
This car was built for export but I cannot determine if this car ever left the USA. My best guess would be it did not. John

jdsnoddy
02-10-2019, 03:16 PM
I'm also looking at C56K3416
I have located both vehicles in the data base, however the "codes" remain unclear.
Any assistance is appreciated.

Ok. Kewl Beans.
VIN: C56K3416 or 3416
SPEC: D19-1A1A-???-?
D19-56C-319-27?-? (1A1A)
PROD ORDER NO: 2910
DSO NO: 319
DSO DETAILS: Front and Rear Seat Belts - Blue

OWNERSHIP HISTORY:
Invoice Date: 10/31/56
Date Shipped: 11/5/56
Consigned To:
COMPANY SERVICE
Lincoln Division
Detroit District District Sales Office

OWNERSHIP HISTORY
1957-1980 No History Found
1981-1984 Ronald F. Garrett MO (L)
1986 Larry Conway MN (L)
1987-1993 No History Found
1994-1998 Ken Zimmerman IL (L)
1999?-2/28/2015 Jim Rogers Collection Las Vegas NV (I)(1)(2)
2/28/15 Sold Mecum Auction Las Vegas (I)(1)(2)(3)
3/1/2015-Present No History Found

OTHER INFORMATION:
Original Invoice Specifications - D19 1A1A (D.S.O. #56C - 319)
Continental Color: Blue Lucite
Trim: Light Blue Leather Seat Biscuits, White Leather Seat Bolsters w/Light Blue Welts
SPECIAL: Front and Rear Seat Belts - Blue
Padded Instrument Panel
Tinted Glass
Front Bumper With Lic. Plate
Air Conditioning
Preparation and Conditioning
Firestone Tire Size: 8:20x15 4 Ply
140 MPH speedometer

(3) 2/28/2015 Mecum Auction Las Vegas - ROGER'S CLASSIC CAR MUSEUM AUCTION, LOT #S69, 1957 Continental Mark II, Sold $27,500 (Including buyers premium), Starmist White with Blue interior. - Car has not been started - Car has not been driven
There was a dent reported on the drivers' side. https://www.mecum.com/lots/RC0215-207328/
-dent under driver's side rear quarter window
-gear shift knob broken
-looks like vinyl interior
3416 D19 10/27/56 Detroit District Sales Office
equipped with seat belts; 3416 was most probably used in visibility service - i.e., 1957 Model Dealer Showings.

rlafash
02-10-2019, 04:14 PM
Thank you John. Th fact that the color was changed from blue to white on the 1957 car is a significant "downer" for me. I'm a true purist when it comes to originality. Again, my appreciation for the information on these two cars.

rlafash
02-11-2019, 07:50 PM
Have another VIN. Would you take a look at C5601492 and provide information as available?

jdsnoddy
02-12-2019, 12:58 PM
Look at C5601492 and provide information as available?

1492 - Last Known Owner 1984-Virginia
VIN: C5601492
SPEC: 01-1E4L-
01-1E4L-110?-?
PROD ORDER NO: 407
ENG#: XXXX BODY TAG NO: XXXXX
DSO NO: NONE
DSO DETAILS: NONE
NAMEPLATE: XXXX
*
OWNERSHIP HISTORY:
1955-Robert M. Yount,
J. C. Daniels Motor Company
Pampa TX
1975 R.D. Garrett, Sr.
1976-84 Robert H. Seumenicht VA (1)(C)(L)
**
HISTORICAL INFORMATION:
(1) CMOA Jul-Aug 1978 Vol 1, No 5 - Bob Seumenich of Virgina...owns #1492 which is currently being restored.
*
OTHER INFORMATION:
110 date should have been stamped 1010 (D)

OTHER INFORMATION:
Original Specifications - 01 1E4L
Trim: Deep Gray Leather Seat Biscuits, Bolsters & Welts
Factory Air Conditioning
Front Bumper With Lic. Plate
Firestone Tire Size: 8:20x15 4 Ply

Some of this info is found by using the search box in the upper RH corner of the forum homepage.
Just put the last four numbers of the VIN and then click search.
Some info is provided by the Mark II database at the bottom of the forum.
Look at the production.pdf which is the production synopsis by VIN.
Hope this helps. John

Bill Patton
03-14-2019, 04:10 PM
I'm researching C56Q3710, it translates to D19 paint code, but what color is D19? I has AC, BG DSO and then the word "Paint". Does that mean it was a special order exterior paint color? Thanks for any help you can offer. Bill Patton

jdsnoddy
03-14-2019, 05:21 PM
Yes, DSO was for the paint color. D.S.O. Dealer Special Order.

OTHER INFORMATION:
Original Invoice Specifications - D19 1A1A
Continental Color: Blue Lucite
Trim: Light Blue Leather Seat Biscuits, Medium Blue Leather Seat Bolsters w/Light Blue Welts
Tinted Glass
Front Bumper With Lic. Plate
Air Conditioning
Firestone Tire Size: 8:20x15 4 Ply

jdsnoddy
03-24-2019, 09:40 PM
Eric:
Welcome.
To research just put the last four numbers of the VIN
In the forum search box in the upper right hand corner of this forum's home page.
Here are the results:
https://www.markiiforum.com/showthread.php?2865-3514-1956-Original-Dealer-Montgomery-AL-*-1977-2014-Manilus-NY&highlight=3514
And some vintage pics:
https://www.markiiforum.com/showthread.php?6691-3514-Found-One-owner-since-1977&highlight=3514
And the advertisement:
https://www.markiiforum.com/showthread.php?8765-3514-F-S-Ebay-Amarillo-TX-32-000-OBO&highlight=3514
I think that combination of black exterior and red with white leather is stunning.
Hope this helps. Again welcome.
John