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    Default '56 Mark II Exhaust System

    Hello everyone,

    I ran into a problem while replacing the exhaust system on my '56 Mark II.

    I purchased the complete stainless kit from Waldron?s Exhaust systems. He claims it's an exact fit. However, it appears that the tailpipe on the drivers side is about 1/2" from the rubber filler tube which to me seems extremely dangerous. Am I missing something? Any suggestions?

    Any feed back would be gratefully appreciated.
    Jaime Marcelo
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2686)
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2694)
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V Convertible
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V 4dr Sedan
    1955 T-Bird (Red) Standard
    1955 T-Bird (White) Automatic
    1959 T-Bird (White)
    1962 T-Bird (White)
    1946 Chevrolet Fleetmaster
    1946 Studebaker Champion
    1946 Cadillac 62 Series 4dr Sedan
    1959 Ford Ranchero
    1967 Chrysler 300 (Convertible)
    1987 Porsche 911 Cabriolet
    1970 VW Bus (Yellow)

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    The drivers side rear rear muffler is indeed 1/2" - 1" from the filler hose. It may sounds like madness but they are all like that (that's certainly what I thought when I first saw it). I know some people split a piece of hose and clip it over the filler pipe to "double wrap" it above the muffler. Having said that there is no history that I know of regarding MKii's catching fire due to petrol ignition or any other reason. I've only see two photos of burnt out cars, one was in the recent California bush fires (https://www.markiiforum.com/showthre...3021#post53021) and the other was an old junker with no cause stated.

    If you have any doubt about the condition of your filler hose (hard, surface cracks etc.) then replace it. There's a posting on the Forum I made describing how to do this (https://www.markiiforum.com/showthre...highlight=hose). The replacement hose from Jack R. fits perfectly.

    I would however recommend isolating the battery when its not being driven because many of the circuits are live even when the ignition is off (65 year old wiring and a high current battery are not a good mix). My car is fitted with a remote activated 200 amp solenoid so one can isolate/deisolate the battery from a switch below the dash.
    Last edited by Mark Norris; 09-16-2021 at 02:40 AM.
    Mark Norris
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    1951 C-type Jaguar (alloy replica)
    1934 Lagonda M45 Tourer

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    Hi Jamie,

    The Forum shows that you own 2686 and 3090, both '56's. Do you mind sharing which car this is?
    Pat Marshall
    Lancaster, OH

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    Hello Jamie,

    Mark is right, the small distance between filler hose and tailpipe is not a bug, it is a feature .

    Even I, like Mark, have not heard of a car burned out of it yet.

    Nevertheless, I pulled a fireproof cover over the filler hose.
    Holger Klausing
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    Pat, I'm referring specifically to 2686.
    Jaime Marcelo
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2686)
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2694)
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V Convertible
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V 4dr Sedan
    1955 T-Bird (Red) Standard
    1955 T-Bird (White) Automatic
    1959 T-Bird (White)
    1962 T-Bird (White)
    1946 Chevrolet Fleetmaster
    1946 Studebaker Champion
    1946 Cadillac 62 Series 4dr Sedan
    1959 Ford Ranchero
    1967 Chrysler 300 (Convertible)
    1987 Porsche 911 Cabriolet
    1970 VW Bus (Yellow)

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    I also concur, the proximity to the exhaust is less a problem than you might think as the system cools significantly by the time the exhaust gets to the tip. Besides, the door sills absorb most of the heat before the exhaust gets past them.

    I've used this on Mark II exhausts under the sills. This is the '33 Continental I'll be showing Sunday.

    While you're in the area make sure your vent lines on the gas tank are hooked up and clear. Insects like gas vent pipes, for some reason.

    7ED4C218-D980-49D7-A6F3-E5836D0A8C2C_1_105_c.jpg
    Barry Wolk
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    Great idea... I shall fireproof the filler home asap! Thank you Holger


    Quote Originally Posted by Egenolf View Post

    Hello Jamie,

    Great idea, I shall fireproof the filler home asap! thank you Holger

    Mark is right, the small distance between filler hose and tailpipe is not a bug, it is a feature .

    Even I, like Mark, have not heard of a car burned out of it yet.

    Nevertheless, I pulled a fireproof cover over the filler hose.
    Jaime Marcelo
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2686)
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2694)
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V Convertible
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V 4dr Sedan
    1955 T-Bird (Red) Standard
    1955 T-Bird (White) Automatic
    1959 T-Bird (White)
    1962 T-Bird (White)
    1946 Chevrolet Fleetmaster
    1946 Studebaker Champion
    1946 Cadillac 62 Series 4dr Sedan
    1959 Ford Ranchero
    1967 Chrysler 300 (Convertible)
    1987 Porsche 911 Cabriolet
    1970 VW Bus (Yellow)

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    Barry,

    Is it like a sleeve? Where did you purchase it? Any idea where I may find it in the Seattle, WA area?
    Thank you for the suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Wolk View Post
    I also concur, the proximity to the exhaust is less a problem than you might think as the system cools significantly by the time the exhaust gets to the tip. Besides, the door sills absorb most of the heat before the exhaust gets past them.

    I've used this on Mark II exhausts under the sills. This is the '33 Continental I'll be showing Sunday.

    While you're in the area make sure your vent lines on the gas tank are hooked up and clear. Insects like gas vent pipes, for some reason.

    7ED4C218-D980-49D7-A6F3-E5836D0A8C2C_1_105_c.jpg
    Jaime Marcelo
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2686)
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2694)
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V Convertible
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V 4dr Sedan
    1955 T-Bird (Red) Standard
    1955 T-Bird (White) Automatic
    1959 T-Bird (White)
    1962 T-Bird (White)
    1946 Chevrolet Fleetmaster
    1946 Studebaker Champion
    1946 Cadillac 62 Series 4dr Sedan
    1959 Ford Ranchero
    1967 Chrysler 300 (Convertible)
    1987 Porsche 911 Cabriolet
    1970 VW Bus (Yellow)

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    Great explanation and recommendations. My wife is more at ease!
    Thank you again Mark.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Norris View Post
    The drivers side rear rear muffler is indeed 1/2" - 1" from the filler hose. It may sounds like madness but they are all like that (that's certainly what I thought when I first saw it). I know some people split a piece of hose and clip it over the filler pipe to "double wrap" it above the muffler. Having said that there is no history that I know of regarding MKii's catching fire due to petrol ignition or any other reason. I've only see two photos of burnt out cars, one was in the recent California bush fires (https://www.markiiforum.com/showthre...3021#post53021) and the other was an old junker with no cause stated.

    If you have any doubt about the condition of your filler hose (hard, surface cracks etc.) then replace it. There's a posting on the Forum I made describing how to do this (https://www.markiiforum.com/showthre...highlight=hose). The replacement hose from Jack R. fits perfectly.

    I would however recommend isolating the battery when its not being driven because many of the circuits are live even when the ignition is off (65 year old wiring and a high current battery are not a good mix). My car is fitted with a remote activated 200 amp solenoid so one can isolate/deisolate the battery from a switch below the dash.
    Jaime Marcelo
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2686)
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2694)
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V Convertible
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V 4dr Sedan
    1955 T-Bird (Red) Standard
    1955 T-Bird (White) Automatic
    1959 T-Bird (White)
    1962 T-Bird (White)
    1946 Chevrolet Fleetmaster
    1946 Studebaker Champion
    1946 Cadillac 62 Series 4dr Sedan
    1959 Ford Ranchero
    1967 Chrysler 300 (Convertible)
    1987 Porsche 911 Cabriolet
    1970 VW Bus (Yellow)

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    It's for the 2686... I just finished the brakes, including the master cylinder. The fuel pump was replaced as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Marshall View Post
    Hi Jamie,

    The Forum shows that you own 2686 and 3090, both '56's. Do you mind sharing which car this is?
    Jaime Marcelo
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2686)
    1956 Continental Mark II (C56D2694)
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V Convertible
    1960 Lincoln Continental Mk V 4dr Sedan
    1955 T-Bird (Red) Standard
    1955 T-Bird (White) Automatic
    1959 T-Bird (White)
    1962 T-Bird (White)
    1946 Chevrolet Fleetmaster
    1946 Studebaker Champion
    1946 Cadillac 62 Series 4dr Sedan
    1959 Ford Ranchero
    1967 Chrysler 300 (Convertible)
    1987 Porsche 911 Cabriolet
    1970 VW Bus (Yellow)

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