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    Default 2094 at Bonhams Scottsdale #89 *

    Looks very original and detailed. Pat, you write in the official registry 14-1B6B has red welts, but B6B is white-white-medium blue as it is in this original car (see pics)
    http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23132/lot/89/
    I am afraid I can't afford it.
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    Is it just me or does this "21,000 mile" car have after market hook and loop carpet in it?
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    It also must have had a carter carb installed judging by the '57 air cleaner. Strange that it came from the factory with 800:15 tires with air. I thought all air conditioned cars came with 820's.
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    Some corrections: I have revised the Registry to show that the trim code of the car is 1B6B White Leather Seat Biscuits, White Leather Seat Bolsters, Medium Blue Welts
    Tinted Glass and the tires were 8:25x15.
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    The current Bonham listing states "Dr. Kruger repainted the car in the original white, but left the balance of the cars cosmetics alone due to their exceptional original and well-preserved conditions."

    However, in 1985 Before Kruger bought the car Continental Mark II Owners Association member 1956 David Linder Jr. Tulare, CA advertised the car for sale - Mark II #B2094 Restoration in process and completely disassembled. All mechanical work done including engine complete & balanced. Rebuilt transmission and front suspension and all brakes. Body work done with lead and is in the primer stage. Engine and front frame section delailed and painted. New wide white tires. Sell for less than invested at $7,500. David Linder Jr. Tulare, CA

    Jerry Kutger and especially his wife Sammy Sue were well known for winning all the top LCOC awards with the cars that they restored. There is no doubt in my mind that the Kutgers bought the car and finished the restoration.

    Although the Kutgers were also famous for winning their awards with cars that fell short of authenticity standards, I doubt that they could have won the highest LCOC award with a 1956 that had a 57 carburetor and air filter.

    Personally I doubt that the car is a 20K mile car. The first owners drove the car for 30 years, to the point that in 1985 it required a complete restoration. Possibly the 20K was accumulated on the car after the Kutgers finished the restoration that Linder started.

    I also believe that the 1957 engine pieces/parts were installed on the car after the Kutgers owned the car.

    Also, I can't imagine that the carpet is the original carpet.

    However, it's still a very nice looking car.
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    This nice looking car was sold yesterday for $63,800 (premium incl.) Seems to be a fair price.
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    I was at Bonhams to look at the condition of this Mark II. I would say that the condition of the car is a very nice strong # 3. The front bumper has fresh re-chromed the rest of the bright work is very acceptable. The paint is very nice with very few chips no Cracking or bumps. The interior looks to be original and is in exceptional condition. The front bench has some cracking but still looks great. I believe the carpet is original. All of the bright work on the inside of the car looks like new. The engine compartment is very clean and honestly represented. All of the windows look great with very few bubbles of separation and all had factory markings. On the negative side the trunk carpet was weak but still not real bad. All of the panel openings could be made better. It had the wrong tires. It had 1957 door locks and yes some 1957 parts in the engine room. The weakest parts of the car are all of the rubber parts. With just a little work this car would be a #2 and would score very high at any show.
    Personally I think the owner took it to the wrong auction. Bonhams is well known for fine European sport cars not big American mid-century classics. By the time this big beauty came onto the stage most of the folks had gone home. This car should have sold between $90,000 and $110,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Baumgardt View Post
    Looks very original and detailed. Pat, you write in the official registry 14-1B6B has red welts, but B6B is white-white-medium blue as it is in this original car (see pics)
    http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23132/lot/89/
    I am afraid I can't afford it.
    Wow, that's a heavy buyer's premium:

    BUYERS' PREMIUM AND CHARGES
    For all Sales categories excluding Arms & Armor, Coins & Medals, Motor Cars, Motorcycles, and Wine & Whisky:

    Buyer's Premium Rates
    25% on the first $100,000 of the Hammer Price
    20% from $100,001 to $2,000,000 of the Hammer Price
    12% on the excess over $2,000,000 of the Hammer Price

    Whatever happened to 10%? I think most smart buyers would buy elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Baumgardt View Post
    This nice looking car was sold yesterday for $63,800 (premium incl.) Seems to be a fair price.
    Buyer's Premium Rates
    25% on the first $100,000 of the Hammer Price
    20% from $100,001 to $2,000,000 of the Hammer Price
    12% on the excess over $2,000,000 of the Hammer Price

    Adding $15,950 (25%) Buyer's Premium, the total comes to $79,750.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VidyBidneth View Post
    Buyer's Premium Rates
    25% on the first $100,000 of the Hammer Price
    20% from $100,001 to $2,000,000 of the Hammer Price
    12% on the excess over $2,000,000 of the Hammer Price

    Adding $15,950 (25%) Buyer's Premium, the total comes to $79,750.
    Ahhh, I see that the buyer's premium is included in the $63,800 sale price, so could the winning bid been $51,040?

    $51,040 + 25% ($12,760) = $63,800.

    Seems like an odd bid.
    William Otterson
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