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  1. #1
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    I owned C56B1991 back in the 1960's and would love to find it.
    It was originally two tone gray per the serial number plate. 11-18-1B6K-1208-5
    Where did you see it listed? What is CL?
    Last know whereabouts was back in 20012 as mentioned here in San Fransisco by Jim Fox.
    When I sold it in 1964 it went to San Fransisco so maybe it has been there ever since.
    Jack Bowser
    C56B2198
    Past Ownership 1991, 3206, and 1763
    2006 Ford GT
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    Lots of Bowser gas Pumps

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    Jack/Pat, see plate provided by the "seller". Doing some further listing research and this smells bad. I'll explain later when I have time but wanted you to see this plate.

    What is trim code 7B6B-1 (on tag)? That doesn't appear in the trimconfig.pdf. This s/n has 02 for color and the car obviously looks like it was repainted blue again. See overspray on s/n tag.

    So the tag, s/n, and claimed owner history don't match with your history or database listings.

    The reference above "CL" meant Craigslist.

    Also, what does the last sequence in the tag, 208-10, represent?

    Thanks again,
    Christine
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    Original Invoice Specifications - 02 1B6B
    Continental Color: Deep Blue
    Trim: White Leather Seat Biscuits & Bolsters w/Medium Blue Welts
    SPEC: 02-1B6B-(1)208-10 (Data Plate was erroneusly stamped 7B6B)
    (1)208 is the production date: December 8, 1955
    Please note the "208" should read "1208"
    Someone must have had a hangover when they stamped this data plate.
    10 is the sequence number believed to be the 10th unit
    Produced that day.
    CL is our abbreviation for craigslist.

    This plate matches C56B1996
    The last number could have been photoshopped.
    Regards,
    John
    Last edited by jdsnoddy; 02-25-2022 at 07:07 PM.
    John Snoddy

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    I saw 1996 as well in the database which is why the s/n tag looked phony. Aside from photoshopping the s/n, was it not an uncommon thing to have the wrong trim stamp? In this case a 7 instead of 1? Why would someone photoshop the trim code to 7B6B when the original trim for 1991 was 1B6K?

    I'm confident this is a scam but I want to expose it if so. I'm playing the game here with them, back and forth on email with the "Seller". That's why I got him to tell me the owner history. Doesn't match either of those cars. Capital Auto Sales does not come up on any Google Search for Dover, DE. The email provides a secure link web url so that means it's private. Of course when I click on it I pull up their company and all their terms. Looks legit but it's intended to. Again, you can't pull them up on the public web. The also provide in email the Yelp and Yellowpages write-up for their business. But those are bogus because the secure urls are titled yelplocalbusiness and yellowpageslocalbusiness, and there is no such thing.

    Oddly, the address I got from their website came up on Google Maps with the Capital Auto Sales tag hovered over the building on the map. That's odd. It's in a parking lot next to a Van Line company. So I called that business and inquired. There is no Capital Auto next to them and their building listed on the map is their own warehouse.

    It gets better. I left message with Capital per the # given in email. Someone of Asian Indian descent called me back and I played along. How can I view the car? You have to arrange with the seller. Conveniently the seller is out of the country and wants me to coordinate with Capital. You see the circle. I asked if the car was there where I can visit it. Answer was yes (???). BTW...do you know which car I am referring to? Yes, the 56 Continental. How did you know that? Because you left v-mail earlier. I intentionally did NOT specify any vehicle in my message so I asked him again how he knew. He then asked why I'm asking so many questions. Because I want to connect the dots. He then said because you're name is Christine and that matches with the seller's notes. So obviously there is a back office communication going with the seller and this company.

    I asked him to send me a copy of their business license and the car title. We'll see. I just want this exposed.

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    well done thank you
    Graham Rollo,
    C56D2663 1956 Continental Mark II
    1957 Imperial Southhampton coupe
    1956 Buick Riveria special coupe
    1939 Chev tudor
    1931 Ford Model A coupe
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    I don't recall any instances where a Mark II's data plate had the wrong spec code, maybe an occasional type single digit typo on the plate.

    The 1996 data plate was obviously altered, using the same photo as we used on the Forum history. Here are the two side by side:
    1996-1955 Data Plate.jpg 1991 Bogus Dataplate (See 1996).jpg
    Pat Marshall
    Lancaster, OH

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    My husbandresponded to this man today about a 1972 Blazer. His post said the exact same thing that he sent to you. Absolutely a scam. I googled his name and looked for him on Facebook. That's how I ran across your thread. And I'm glad I did. My husband eas thinking about send him 16,000.🤦*♀️

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