my cadillac

[JBTC3]

Here's a photo of my Brougham, Caddy's answer to the Mark II. Mine is number 402 (out of 704) and one of 2 originally exported to Canada. It has 30,000 original miles.

[Barry Wolk]

I have this "thing" for stainless. Gotta love that roof. Wonder how many dies they went through for 700 cars?

[crystal59]

Here's a photo of my Brougham, Caddy's answer to the Mark II. Mine is number 402 (out of 704) and one of 2 originally exported to Canada. It has 30,000 original miles.

Absolutely stunning. The only car in my view that can compete with a Mark II. Gary

[depmike38]

Can you imagine what they each might have come up with if the Brougham and the Mark II had kept competing head to head?

[Shawn Newcomb]

Oh yeah Barry? How many Deloreans with flux capacitors you got? LOL

[Rick Payton]

That is such a beauty!!!! That is my number one car on my all time top 5 list!! Don't hate me the Mark II is number two on the list.. One day I will have own one:D

[crystal59]

My next car after 1957 Coupe De Ville. I read that the Brougham was 13,000. Gary

[Nick DeSpirito]

John,

Gorgeous car. I had a hankering to get one years ago. The technology and design of that car is totally amazing. I got to see one up close and personal in January down in Orlando while attending the LCOC National board meeting. It was part of a private collection that the organizers of the meeting made arrangements for us to see.

Love the self closing trunk, tri-power, the pillarless suicide doors, and the vanity items. Seems like the designers thought of everything. I think the MSRP was $13,077.00.

[crystal59]

Taking from what Barry mentioned in the thread about the Popular Mechanics review of the Mark II where there is no " ladylike" way to exit the Mark II, I read that there was no such issue with the Brougham and with the suicide doors, ladies thought this was an elegant exit. I do not care as I do not sit in the back and Mark II is my favourite with the Brougham a close second. A major issue with the Brougham was the air suspension which a fair number of owners disconnected. Gary

[Shawn Newcomb]

The Eldorado had an x-frame not the 'cowbelly' (not to start that arguement again) frame that gives the Mark II the wide, ackward door sills that give women in skirts so much trouble. The old gullwing mercedes was known for the same thing as are many modern day supercars. In addition the brougham's individual seats swivelled and as we all know a Mark II bench cannot.

[Roger Zimmermann]

In addition the brougham's individual seats swivelled and as we all know a Mark II bench cannot.
No, no! The front seat is a bench; the rear seats are looking like individual ones, but they don't move!
When I'm back home, I'll post pictures of my own '57 Brougham.
Mopar cars had front swivelling seats.

[Shawn Newcomb]

My apologies. I stand corrected about the seats in the production car. Only the 1955 Motorama showcar had swivel seats driver and passenger. Those were the pictures I had seen. Sorry.

You are correct Imperial took the idea and ran with it later on...

[crystal59]

My apologies. I stand corrected about the seats in the production car. Only the 1955 Motorama showcar had swivel seats driver and passenger. Those were the pictures I had seen. Sorry.

You are correct Imperial took the idea and ran with it later on...

Hi Shawn. I did not think that the Brougham with a bench seat could swivel but never having seen one and with a price tag of 13,000 who knows so I was waiting for the owner to comment. The Monte Carlo also had a year with front bucket swivel seats. A terrific feature that should have been on more cars. Gary

[crystal59]

No, no! The front seat is a bench; the rear seats are looking like individual ones, but they don't move!
When I'm back home, I'll post pictures of my own '57 Brougham.
Mopar cars had front swivelling seats.

Would enjoy seeing photographs of your Brougham and I think Rick would enjoy also. Gary

[depmike38]

And as the swivel mechanism ages do you end up with the ultra rare "rocking seat" option?:)

[Barry Wolk]

It Depends.

[Roger Zimmermann]

As promised, 2 pictures from my '57 Brougham # 230. The pictures are rather old; I need to do new ones with a digital camera.
The small reflectors at the back are mandatory in Switzerland, I must have them.

[crystal59]

That is one terrific car. How long have you had the Brougham? I would like to see more photos if you dont mind showing interior, trunk and engine as I have never seen a Brougham in person. What are the specifications regarding height, length and weight? Gary

[JBTC3]

Just a couple of corrections on Brougham facts. The seats did NOT swivel. The suicide doors do make the car easy to get in and out of. And the retail price was $13,074 new. The only options were interior treatments such as leather and Mouton carpets and those were extra cost. A/C was standard. GM lost about $10,000 a copy on them according to their records. And yes the air suspension was a big problem when new and many owners came out to their cars to find them sitting on the ground as the air leaked out. Mine is still riding on air (you can fix those problems now) but only about 1/3 of them still have air suspension. It rides very well however.

[crystal59]

Just a couple of corrections on Brougham facts. The seats did NOT swivel. The suicide doors do make the car easy to get in and out of. And the retail price was $13,074 new. The only options were interior treatments such as leather and Mouton carpets and those were extra cost. A/C was standard. GM lost about $10,000 a copy on them according to their records. And yes the air suspension was a big problem when new and many owners came out to their cars to find them sitting on the ground as the air leaked out. Mine is still riding on air (you can fix those problems now) but only about 1/3 of them still have air suspension. It rides very well however.

I find the comment interesting about the suicide doors not making it easy to get in and out. I had a 1971 Thunderbird with suicide doors and it was definitley easier to exit and enter. The ladies often remarked that on exiting they could step out instead of backing out. That comment never seemed to give me any pleasure. Gary

[Barry Wolk]

I find the comment about the suicide doors not


Not what????

[crystal59]

Not what????

Sorry, I thought I had put it all in the post. What I found interesting is the comment that suicide doors do not make it easier to exit or enter. I had a 1971 thunderbird with suicide doors and the ladies commented that the suicide door was easier as it allowed them to step out rather than back out. That comment did not give me pleasure. Gary

[JBTC3]

That is one terrific car. How long have you had the Brougham? I would like to see more photos if you dont mind showing interior, trunk and engine as I have never seen a Brougham in person. What are the specifications regarding height, length and weight? Gary

Gary, I have had my Brougham for 4 years. You would find it interesting that it is one of only 2 every exported to Canada. Until I bought it, it had been in Quebec since delivery from a dealer in Wisconsin. Here's another pic.

[JBTC3]

oops, I forgot an engine compartment pic

[Huffstutler]

My apologies. I stand corrected about the seats in the production car. Only the 1955 Motorama showcar had swivel seats driver and passenger. Those were the pictures I had seen. Sorry.

You are correct Imperial took the idea and ran with it later on...

My 1963 LeBaron didn't come with them (bench seat). Believe the swivel for Imperial was only 1959-1961 and said to be both uncomfortable and the cable mech broke often so few still work today. I know Chrysler 300 and cars with bucket seats also had them and said to be more comfortable being deep bolstered.

[crystal59]

Gary, I have had my Brougham for 4 years. You would find it interesting that it is one of only 2 every exported to Canada. Until I bought it, it had been in Quebec since delivery from a dealer in Wisconsin. Here's another pic.

Thanks for the photo. Between Rick and I the more photos the better. That is one of the finest dashes ever designed. My family had a 57 Coupe De Ville and sitting behind that wheel and looking at that dash just brings a smile. The Mark II was elegant from the outside but the 57 Cadillac dash was in a league all its own. Gary

[crystal59]

Here's a photo of my Brougham, Caddy's answer to the Mark II. Mine is number 402 (out of 704) and one of 2 originally exported to Canada. It has 30,000 original miles.

The thin whitewalls really work and if one did not know better it is as though the car came equipped like that. Does not work as well on a Mark II as I prefer wide walls on a Mark II but like the thin ones here. What is the height and lenght of the car?Gary

[Huffstutler]

The thin whitewalls really work and if one did not know better it is as though the car came equipped like that. Does not work as well on a Mark II as I prefer wide walls on a Mark II but like the thin ones here. What is the height and lenght of the car?Gary

I'm not John but can answer the question...

126" wheelbase
216.3" length
78.3" wide
55.5" high
5315 weight