Mark II models

[Barry Wolk]

A few years ago a Mark II convertible model was brought out in 1:24 scale. It was a hardtop cast Mark II that was altered into convertible form by Franklin Mint. It was an addition of 800+ units that were just under $200. They now bring a lot more on e-Bay.

http://www.phillymint.com/I_Franklin/d747_1.jpg

Then there's the standard black version. They made a limited edition in white:

http://www.legacydiecast.com/product_images/zo31.jpg

And a red one:

http://www.diecastcars.tv/images/20078%20burg.jpg

The WCF Hot Rod Mark II version:

http://www.legacydiecast.com/product_images/e658.jpg

1:43 scale:

http://www.carmodel.net/itemsPhotosEncrypter.php?0-7554_1.jpg

http://www.carmodel.net/itemsPhotosEncrypter.php?0-7552.jpg

Yat-Ming 1:18 scale:

http://bytehaus.com.br/loja/images/1-18%20Yatming%2020078W%20Lincoln%20Mark%202.JPG

Minichamps 1:43

http://www.maniadecarrinhos.com.br/loja/images/MIN082300.jpg

http://www.metalmaket.com/ProductImages/400082304..jpg

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/mokeiyabigman/cabinet/minicar7/minichamps-08230.jpg

Fairfield Mint:

http://www.fairfieldmint.com/images/yucarcf_hero.jpg

[5bird7]

to add to your list:

Brooklin of England produced the Mark II up thru 1998. Colors produced over that time period were Dark blue as a 56 model and from 93-98, dark green 57. 1/43 scale
http://www.portholeauthority.com/models/cont56/56Bblu.JPG

[Shawn Newcomb]

Seems to me I remember Lionel Trains having one or a pair riding on a flatbed car with my father's train set from the late fifties.

[5bird7]

Wouldn't be surprised. Scale models of the MarkII have been available since the 50s though fairly scarce from the 60s into the 80s. The late 70s/early 80s brought a resurgence of scale models for the collector, not just toys.

[Shawn Newcomb]

Yeah, I was given one of the Revell (I think) do-it-yourself kits for Christmas one year.

[Barry Wolk]

Brooklin also produced a set of Mark II convertibles, one in white to match the Derham car in it's original form and in Robin's Egg Blue to show it was then.

[depmike38]

I've got a 1:18 scale Yat Ming that has been produced in the last few years in black and the detail in it is really nice. It's quite different from the one above.

[5bird7]

1:43 scale:

http://www.carmodel.net/itemsPhotosEncrypter.php?0-7554_1.jpg

http://www.carmodel.net/itemsPhotosEncrypter.php?0-7552.jpg


Barry, Do you happen to know who made those two models?
I went to carmodel's website but they carry a lot of different makes.

[Barry Wolk]

Sorry, no.

[5bird7]

Did a little guess since one of the pictures had a symbol and the word Mercury on the box. Seems that there is a brand name of Mercury diecast. The carmodel site then showed 3 photos of the Continental from that company - the white & green you show above plus one in black.

[2 Lincolns]

Fairfield Mint:

[IMG]http://www.fairfieldmint.com/images/yucarcf_hero.jpg

I bought the same Yat Ming 1:18 scale in the same color back in July 09, it had never been out of the box and came with a Gold plated (plasitc) coin and a numbered certificate of authenticity in the box. I gently removed it from the box last night preserving everything and added it to my display cases.

Wood grain steering wheel, windows that go up and down, opening doors, hood, trunk. A very nice piece for my die cast collection.

Being new here I followed some of the links to a hot rod site that talked about chopping the top and removing the continental hump from the trunk.

Don't know how you could improve on it's original design and proportions. Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder I guess.

[Barry Wolk]

Exoto contacted me several years ago about producing a model based on my car. They made several prototypes that they have shown all over the world to gauge interest in a production model. So far, no production.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/barry2952/1%20Mark%20II%20docs/NUR07-1158.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/barry2952/1%20Mark%20II%20docs/P1010222JPG.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/barry2952/1%20Mark%20II%20docs/SH46-0618.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/barry2952/1%20Mark%20II%20docs/1565.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/barry2952/1%20Mark%20II%20docs/3799266269.jpg

[5bird7]

Nice of Exoto to do a one off sample for you.

[Barry Wolk]

Wish they had given it to me, as promised. Found out after the fact that they make lots of promises they don't keep. Seems they are highly reviled by many in the die-cast world.

[5bird7]

oh, I see. Thought it was in your display case. I went thru their website and they have a lot of expensive retired toys.

[5bird7]

Model Power just released a 1/87 scale diecast model of the Mark II this month. I've seen 2 different vendors on ebay selling them these past couple of weeks. High Speed (China manufacturer) usually makes the models for them. So far, just 3 colors are available, white, black and a "peacock blue" (56 Tbird color, a bright turquoise color).

[linc64]

And only $4.95 plus shipping!

[Roger Zimmermann]

It was a long, long time ago a Continental Mark II from Revell, scale 1:32. My skils were not on the high mark; I would say this model was unfortunately butchered. More recently, I bought a Mark II from Franklin Mint. For those who saw my introduction, the next one will be a Mark II scale 1:12 home made. I will begin with the wheels and tires in 2010.

[Barry Wolk]

Would you consider making an extra hubcap for me? It'd make a great art piece. It's also make a great lapel pin.

[5bird7]

It was a long, long time ago a Continental Mark II from Revell, scale 1:32. My skils were not on the high mark; I would say this model was unfortunately butchered. More recently, I bought a Mark II from Franklin Mint. For those who saw my introduction, the next one will be a Mark II scale 1:12 home made. I will begin with the wheels and tires in 2010.


Roger, too bad about butchering it as it's rare model kit to find today, but it helped you with your skills you have today. They reissued that same kit in the mid-90's but lately I see sellers asking an "arm and a leg" for the reissued kit. Just 10 years ago, it was pretty cheap. I'd like to find an originally issued box so I can see if there are any differences in the printing on the boxes.

[Roger Zimmermann]

Would you consider making an extra hubcap for me? It'd make a great art piece. It's also make a great lapel pin.
I have to think about that. I'll send you a MP.

[Roger Zimmermann]

Roger, too bad about butchering it as it's rare model kit to find today, but it helped you with your skills you have today. They reissued that same kit in the mid-90's but lately I see sellers asking an "arm and a leg" for the reissued kit. Just 10 years ago, it was pretty cheap. I'd like to find an originally issued box so I can see if there are any differences in the printing on the boxes.
I still have the box (partly at least) and the assembly instructions of that model!

[5bird7]

Interesting. The top of box is almost identical. The side tells the difference though.
Here's the side of the box from the 1995 release.

[5bird7]

Roger, Do your instructions have the model kit # on them? I'm looking for that information.

[Roger Zimmermann]

Roger, Do your instructions have the model kit # on them? I'm looking for that information.
Unfortunately the number of the kit is not there. However, I have a catalog from 1960 from Revell; the Mark II is still there with the number H-1209.

[5bird7]

Does anyone know who might be the manufacturer of this model?
http://www.portholeauthority.com/models/cont56/ST-blue.jpg

It's from a picture I took off of ebay several years ago but I left no notes with it. It was being sold along with a Tekno model and a Dinky model of other autos, both of which had boxes, but this one did not. The size appears to be 1/43 or 1/48.

[linc64]

I have a friend who collects models, I'll see if he might know for sure.
Here's one that looks similar.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HO-SCALE-MDL-PWR-DIE-CAST-1956-LINCOLN-MARK-II-BLUE_W0QQitemZ390145233842QQcmdZViewItemQQptZModel _RR_Trains?hash=item5ad677d3b2

[5bird7]

similar but only in color. That one is 1/87 size - about 2". The one in my picture is a diecast metal model, about 1/43 or 5" in length. Also, the hub caps appear to be from the 50s era of diecast models - plain metal disks, kind of standard on many scale models of that era.

[linc64]

I'm waiting to hear from my friend. In the meantime, here's a picture of some models from an article in the June '86 issue of Collectible Automobile.
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/linc64/Miscellaneous/img1982.jpg

[5bird7]

thanks, Jim. Glad to see what the AMT box looks like. There have been a couple of diecast articles in Continental Comments in the past 20 years but I don't remember which issues they were in. The last article had quite a few different Mark IIs in it and that's the one I'd like to find again. Seems it was in the past 3 years as I recall glancing thru it since we moved here.

[depmike38]

I've got two of the Revell versions. They were both sealed when I found them but I had to open one just to look. Thinking about making a copy of my car with it.

[5bird7]

Mike, Were your Revell model kits the 1956 release or the 1995 release. The 1995 box would be marked 1995 in very small print on the side otherwise the boxes look almost identical.

[depmike38]

I've got to go back to the shop tomorrow and I'll take a look and let you know. I'm not sure if they're both the same as they came from two different sources.

[linc64]

Sorry Dot, my friend was unable to identify the manufacturer of the model you posted a picture of.:(

[5bird7]

at least you tried, Jim. Thanks for checking it out. I'll keep on searching.

[depmike38]

Roger, Do your instructions have the model kit # on them? I'm looking for that information.
Dot, both of the kits I have are the 1995 version and the kit number marked on the box ends and on the instructions is 1219. It's funny that on the box it says it's to exact scale but I can't find where it says the scale is. The frame is a separate part from the rest and yes it has the mysterious center crossmember.

[5bird7]

Thanks, Mike,

As shown in the photo that linc64 posted, Ford had Mark II promotionals made. Does anyone know how many different colors have been found over the years? I've got several different colors myself, including red, cream, lt blue and black and have seen a mint green. The 57 Thunderbird had 8 different colors, some rare, others, common of the promo, so I assume there are more than just six of the Mark II?

[Huffstutler]

Dot, both of the kits I have are the 1995 version and the kit number marked on the box ends and on the instructions is 1219. It's funny that on the box it says it's to exact scale but I can't find where it says the scale is. The frame is a separate part from the rest and yes it has the mysterious center crossmember.


The "mysterious center crossmember" - Any pictures of it to see if it is accurate?

[depmike38]

I'll open the bag up and make pictures of it to post. Come to think of it, if I install the axles temporarily it'll give a rough wheelbase to compare to a real car. Mike

[Huffstutler]

I'll open the bag up and make pictures of it to post. Come to think of it, if I install the axles temporarily it'll give a rough wheelbase to compare to a real car. Mike

Any pictures taken yet Mike :)

Thanks.

[depmike38]

I'm sorry Eric, I had some guys that didn't show this week so I've been actually working. I took it out and just forgot. I did look at it though and it only has detail on the bottom side being a plastic model. I'll get it done this week-end.:o

[5bird7]

Here's another. These came inside Easter Eggs from Kinder Surprise Toys in Europe. They're a little model kit, about 1/87th in size. Maker is Ferrero of Germany, made during the mid-90's.

[Roger Zimmermann]

Rather crude as model. I hope to do better!

[5bird7]

Rather crude as model. I hope to do better!
It is the crudest that I've come across. The Wiking is so much better. I know that yours will be even better than either of those.

[5bird7]

It was a long, long time ago a Continental Mark II from Revell, scale 1:32. My skils were not on the high mark; I would say this model was unfortunately butchered. More recently, I bought a Mark II from Franklin Mint. For those who saw my introduction, the next one will be a Mark II scale 1:12 home made. I will begin with the wheels and tires in 2010.

Roger, What is the length on your Revell scale model of the Mark ii?

[Roger Zimmermann]

Roger, What is the length on your Revell scale model of the Mark ii?
Dot, the length from bumper to bumper is 175.6 mm or 6.913".

[5bird7]

Brooklin also produced a set of Mark II convertibles, one in white to match the Derham car in it's original form and in Robin's Egg Blue to show it was then.

Do you have a set? any pictures?

[Barry Wolk]

No I don't. There was a site called lincolndownunder.com, but now it's gone. There was a set on e-Bay last year.

Anyone have one of these?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_J7WZet1T3XA/SspqVn6q4II/AAAAAAAACCg/cA58uhPqaQs/s320/Mark+II+Continental.jpg

[Barry Wolk]

Andrew in Australia got right back to me with a picture of the Brooklin pair. I've also asked him to join this site.

He sold all of his cars, took down the site and spends most of his time traveling. Lucky bugger.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/barry2952/1%20Mark%20II%20docs/56mkii.jpg

[5bird7]

Did he mention how many were made in that edition?

[5bird7]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_J7WZet1T3XA/SspqVn6q4II/AAAAAAAACCg/cA58uhPqaQs/s320/Mark+II+Continental.jpg

Do you know the size? Looks like a Japanese tin model. probably rather expensive now since that one looks mint with box.


I have a battery operated promo model by AMT, red as I recall, but packed away since our move.

[Huffstutler]

I'm sorry Eric, I had some guys that didn't show this week so I've been actually working. I took it out and just forgot. I did look at it though and it only has detail on the bottom side being a plastic model. I'll get it done this week-end.:o

Did you ever get the kit chassis photographed? Thanks!

Eric

[depmike38]

Sorry Eric, I took it out to do it and realized that I'd need to partially assemble it in order to have a useable photo. And then I got sidetracked and didn't follow up.:o I'll get it done this week and also I have another larger metal reproduction with a pretty detailed undercarriage that I'll photograph as well.

[0bird2]

Discovered recently that Wiking came out with a set of "classic" Fords this winter in Germany. Of the four cars in the set, one is the "Ford Continental" (as Wiking has labeled the 56/57 Continental since the late 50s). It appears to be a light pearlized blue from the pictures I've seen - and has the trailer hitch chassis. Wiking hasn't made this model since 1982.


I also found the Japanese Tin above was made by LineMar of Japan.

and, I'm also hot on the heels of another scarce model in the US - one made by Scottoys of Italy in the early 2000's

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5bird7 aka Dot Lang

(sorry George, forgot to sign u out)

[5bird7]

Does anyone know who might be the manufacturer of this model?
http://www.portholeauthority.com/models/cont56/ST-blue.jpg

It's from a picture I took off of ebay several years ago but I left no notes with it. It was being sold along with a Tekno model and a Dinky model of other autos, both of which had boxes, but this one did not. The size appears to be 1/43 or 1/48.

Have definitely identified this model. It's a Scottoy model from the 2000's, made in Italy as a remake of the Mercury models, also made in Italy.
Have picked up a green one. The color matches our 57 Ford Station Wagon which is "Cumberland Green"
http://www.portholeauthority.com/models/cont56/STgrn2.jpg
It's smaller than advertised as mine measures 4.3 inches or about 1/52 scale.

[vancec]

A few years ago a Mark II convertible model was brought out in 1:24 scale. It was a hardtop cast Mark II that was altered into convertible form by Franklin Mint. It was an addition of 800+ units that were just under $200. They now bring a lot more on e-Bay.

http://www.phillymint.com/I_Franklin/d747_1.jpg



God, would I love to find one of those. That's MY car, color and all. A couple years ago I bought a blue Yat Ming model and cut the top off; I never knew anyone made a GREEN one.

[Huffstutler]

Does anyone have the 1:18 Yat Ming diecast and can take a picture of the chassis of it? I know Franklin Mint made one in 1:24 but from what I saw is not accurate.

Or has anyone a built Revell 1:32 and can take a pic as well? Thanks!

[Roger Zimmermann]

Eric, I have the Revell model. It was my first kit to assemble, many, many years ago. I had a real lack of experience with plastic kits and unfortunately it can be seen...
I don't have the 1:18 Mark II model; I heard (if it's from this manufacturer) that it's well done.
On the other side, I'm not disapointed with the Franklin Mint model. Of course, the are shortcuts and other wrong details, but not everybody is like you (or me...); I suppose the vast majority is satisfied with the Franklin or Danbury Mint models.

[Huffstutler]

Oh wow... that must seem like ages ago and is a universe apart in skill level :)

The Franklin Mint has their strong points with exteriors but think Danbury edges them out with details for the higher end models. but, some of these cheaper department store 1:18 models can blow either away.

Anyone else out there with the Yat Ming? Barry, didn't you say you made a convertible body out of a Yat Ming? A picture of the chassis of it around?

Thanks.

[Barry Wolk]

You misunderstood my ramblings. The model maker Exoto made a couple of prototype Mark II convertibles from Yat Ming, so I never saw the frame. The other model I wrote about was a 1:12 scale resin Mark II that some doofus was making into a convertible. I finally got my money back from him and gave up. I never saw the frame of their model, either.

I reread this thread and remembered that I've not posted the model my wife had made for me 8 years ago as a birthday gift, I believe.

I don't think the frame is accurate.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/barry2952/Picture0010-3.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/barry2952/Picture0006-4.jpg

[Huffstutler]

I reread this thread and remembered that I've not posted the model my wife had made for me 8 years ago as a birthday gift, I believe.

I don't think the frame is accurate.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg18/barry2952/Picture0010-3.jpg

Probably not :D

But I am sure it was a labor of love.

[Doc]

I love that; looks like Chip Foose was asked to make a two seat roadster out of a Mark II from that angle.:D
Is it ceramic or ?

[Barry Wolk]

Yes, it's ceramic. It was made from pictures by a little company called Car Toons, which I can't seem to find anymore.

If you wanted them to they would make a model of you, too, either driving or standing next to your car.

Looks like a Thunderbird to me.

[5bird7]

New models are scarce (actually non-existent) but Wiking seems to be continuing to produce the Continental since I first reported it in 2010. The first one of the re-release was the pale blue metallic, then last winter they offered a pink with white top. This fall, just discovered that they came out with a maroon model. Right now, they're only available from sellers in Germany.

Has anyone come across a railroad hobby shop that is importing them yet?

[Roger Zimmermann]

Glad to see here again, Dot! If you go in my own post, you will see that the model's frame is ready; your picture were a great help, thank you!
Regarding the Wiking model: do you have a seller name in Germany? Maybe they would ship to Switzerland and from here, I would ship it to you.

[5bird7]

Roger, I've already got one coming from Germany. Thanks for the offer to relay one. I browsed ebay international and a number of German sellers have the new color. With some judicious searching found one that ships worldwide at a very reasonable price with good feedback.