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Barry Wolk
01-05-2010, 10:10 AM
A lot of people insure their cars under their daily driver policy. However, the way most of us use our cars, that's expensive and not necessary.

Classic car insurance is very inexpensive because we are statistically low-risk drivers. By pooling all of our policies the insurance companies (a misnomer for sure) bundle our low risk policies and sell them off to large insurance concerns like Lloyds of London, take a cut off the top, and get paid to service the policy and handle claims. In effect, the classic car insurers are glorified brokers and service agencies, not insurance companies, per se.

Classic car insurance is typically an "agreed value" policy. For example, I think my 1977 Lincoln Town Car with 20,000 miles is worth $15,000. I may be dreaming, but that's OK because it falls within what they consider to be a reasonable range. Since the rates are "per thousand" I pay about $100 a year for full coverage and no appraisal was required. When I bought the '55 Porsche Continental no appraisal was required as there are published price guides. However, they did require an appraisal for my Mark II as there are no comps for a convertible.

The only requirements for classic car coverage is that your vehicle be stored in a locked facility and that there be one registered and insured vehicle for every licensed driver in the household. This is so that you don't use the car as a daily driver.

I'm insured with Hagerty, but this is not an endorsement. I've spoken to plenty of others that are insured with different carriers and are just as pleased. I use Hagerty because they are Michigan-based and for their efforts to get states to relax old-car use policies. Hagerty spends a great deal on supporting legislation allover the country that will allow us to use our cars with fewer restrictions. They see no increase risk as classic cars are involved in so few payouts. Hagerty encourages their insured to use their cars in anything but commercial ventures, like movies. However, with notice and a small one-time premium you can use your car commercially for weddings and movie scenes.

SLK
01-05-2010, 12:27 PM
I agree that classic insurance makes sense. For my company, the car only needs to be more than 19 years old. This means that I can insure my 87 Corvette convertible for under $200 a year instead of $2,000.

Barry Wolk
01-05-2010, 12:36 PM
I did the same with my 77,000 mile '88 750iL. The rate was $1,250 annually and went to $250 a year with Hagerty. However, this is a different policy than classic car insurance and costs more.

BTW, I also insure my 1956 18' Chris Craft "Continental" with Hagerty Marine.

depmike38
01-05-2010, 02:50 PM
I just got my renewal from Hagerty this past week and once again $244.00 to cover the Mark all year. I've been well pleased with them and their customer service and so far no claims so I can't personally tell you how that aspect works out. I did however handle a repair for a customer involving J.C. Taylor on damage to his 51 Cadillac convertible and was very impressed with how easy they were to work with and how quickly they took care of his claim.

Barry Wolk
01-05-2010, 03:02 PM
It's not their money they're dispensing. That's why there's so little hassle.

2 Lincolns
01-11-2010, 09:20 AM
It's not their money they're dispensing. That's why there's so little hassle.

I worked 35 Years in the insurance business and for 10 years I have insured with a specialty insurance broker/insurance company.

I had an incidence about 5 years ago when at a fall car show another classic car owner fired up his 48 Mercury hot rod which slipped into gear (automatic on the column) while the car was on fast idel on a cool evening. The owner had reached into the car and started it and walked away. Sloppy shift linkage dropped into reverse and off she went.

The Merc went thru the parking lots bouncing off 7 other classics pushing Mustangs, Corvettes around like they were match sticks. I was standing in front of my car talking to another car club member when it headed towards us at a high rate of speed, virtually an unmaned missle. The two of virtually of us dove for our lives. Yeap, you got it!

It hit the front end of my freshly restored 64 Thunderbird and it came to a stop. The Bird was just too heavy for it to push around. Sad part was that at that point in time I had owned my car for 37 years and it had never been in an accident.

The repairs to my Bird were about $6,000. The Merc was a write off, the whole rear of the car was crushed up to the rear windows, frame was bent to the point the doors could not be opened. All in all the damages were about $150,000 involved 8 cars, all with the same same specialty insurer and broker.

My point is that there were no hastles, they just said take it to your own body shop, our adjuster will be there on Sunday morning at 10 to take pictures and get the process started. Funny thing is there was very little body damage since it hit the front bumpers so most of the repairs were for straightening and rechroming. Small damage to the hood and bumper mounts so they repainted the entire front end of the car. The repairs were properly done but I lost the car for 2 months waiting on the rechrome, but the car would have normally been in storage anyway that late in the year.

Oddly enough 5 of the 8 cars including the culprit ended up at the same body shop since we all live in the same area and they had previously worked on all of them.

So after that long diatribe, you are absolutely correct...deal with an agreed amount policy and specialty company and you won't have any surprises if and when you need them. As you can see as careful as you are there are always other out there who don't maintain their vehicles to our high standards.

The Merc should not have been on the road althought it looked good, mechanically it was not. He got a $26,000 pay out because his buddy appraised the car for about 3 times it's actual worth...he got paid anyway!

Sorry for the long post!

Gord Robinson
Oakville, Ontairo Canada