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[roger]

Hi,
Just bought my first Mark 11, got it from the "57Heaven Museum in Branson, Mo. Presently going thru it to see what does and does not work, and trying to get it running.

Great forum! If anyone can decode the Body Spec, I would certainly appreciate it. D22-S359-1-P11N-N.

Car appears to be mostly original with the exception of a repaint sometime in it's history.

[Chuck Lutz]

Welcome Roger. I know the car. Actually I was checking the results from KC this morning and went to look at the Mark II's they sold over the years.
I was wondering 2 things. A photo of your car (postcard they called it) has been for sale off and on at E-bay. Seems like you should have a piece of that action. LOL
Also, Mecum advertised that the cars at 57 Heaven had been drained and prepared for museum exhibition. Did you have any trouble getting it running?
I don't understand the numbers that you posted. Are they from the driver's side vin plate? I know the D22 is the color which is shown as Gray iridescent metallic (Acrylic Lacquer). Other than that I'm not sure what the other numbers are. Usually the vin starts C56**** Try posting a picture of the plate. Here's a photo of my 56. They all started with C56 then the C stands for January 1956. 2287 is the sequential number (they started with 1001) Next line is 15 – (Medium Blue) 1A1A is the interior code, 106 - Built Jan 6 - 1 is the sequence number, first batch of the day.
Glad you joined and you'll find lot of good folks here. We're growing in numbers thanks to Shelly, Barry and others getting the word out.

[linmk2]

Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to seeing some pictures.

[Barry Wolk]

Welcome to the forum Roger.

If it sat drained of fluids for a long time you should strongly consider priming the oil pump by hand. You remove the distributor, carefully marking the position of the rotor and the position of the distributor stem relative to the block.

Now you insert a readily available hex shaft into the drive for the oil pump, available through the vacated opening in the block. Secure the shaft in the chuck of a drill and turn it on. This will drive the impeller of the oil pump, pressurizing the system. Reinstall the distributor and fire it up.

Most engine wear occurs on start-up. On a well used car its not a problem. On drained museum cars it is.

[roger]

Chuck,
Good to hear from you. Someone has about 50 of those postcards, as well as postcards of some of the other cars in the museum. Yes, all fluids were drained prior to exhibition. That concerns me when it comes to starting it, of which, I've yet to try.
The only things I have done so far is install the battery, engine oil, and transmission fluid. The water pump is frozen, so I've to remove it and am waiting for the replacement.
Found a couple of the windows would not work, no the radio antenna.
the Body spec numbers come off the vin plate on the drivers side. I will attempt to attach a picture. The VIN is C56P3572, and the color is as you stated.
Oh well, so much for sending pictures!

[roger]

Barry,
Thanks for the vaulable suggestion. I was trying to figure out how to get some oil circulated. I'll certainly try that

[Barry Wolk]

Your antenna is vacuum operated, as are the wipers.

[roger]

Thanks, I'm trying to figure out how to post some pictures!

[5bird7]

Welcome! Roger. Just joined myself. Also looked at the auction results the other day, looking to see what a tbird desk went for. Have been spotting the postcards on ebay.

As for some photo help, I'll be posting some other hints than have been given on this site in the past. Watch for another post from me later on this evening in another thread.

[roger]

Thanks very much
Roger

[Chuck Lutz]

Roger, Now those are numbers that talk.
Your car was:
1. as I said, Gray
2. a very cool combo interior from the factory ... black leather biscuits , black bolster and with black welts. (Still like that?)
3. It had A/C
4. It was a DSO (Dealer Special Order) with Blackwall tires.
5. Sold originally to J.E.Coberly, Jr.
6. From J.E.Coberly Dealership in Los Angeles. (Daddy loves me.) :D

That's what I found.
Good luck.

[Roger Zimmermann]

Thanks very much
Roger

So, there are 2 Roger here! Welcome!
I have no Mark II, but I'm planing to do one , scale 1:12. See my presentation.
Good luck with your Mark II!
Roger

[Nick DeSpirito]

Roger,

Welcome to the forum. I remember seeing that car on Ebay, and also the post cards, which are still posted for sale. For some reason (guess I'm color blind) judging by the pictures, I thought it was painted in a lilac color. In any case, it is a beautiful car and I wish you lots of luck with it. If we can be of any further assistance, just ask.

[roger]

Nick,
Thanks, the pictures of the car, including the one in the Mecum auction brochure does have a Lilac tint. It doesn't show in the real. Do you remember when the car was on ebay?
Roger

[roger]

Chuck,
Thanks for the info. The interior is still all black, including the headliner, and still has the AC (don't know if it works) I had a copy of the invoice which showed it sold to Mr. Coberly, however, there is a gold plate on the carpet that shows a different name (can't remember what it is, Dr. Angus ?) and I have heard that should be the person who ordered it. Any thoughts on that?

[Barry Wolk]

Replacement plates were available. However, the car could have been ordered for one person and delivered to another due to a cancellation.

[roger]

That makes sense, thanks

[roger]

Mark,
Does the pump turn clockwise or CCW?

[Barry Wolk]

I think the firing order is clockwise, so that's the way you'd turn it. I'd pop a valve cover and turn it until there's oil visible at the rockers. The firing rotation might be cast into the intake manifold.

[Chuck Lutz]

Roger, I'm glad all is as it WAS.
As for the Coberly vs. the good Dr., it wouldn't surprise me that that car was ordered by "Daddy" in Jr's name and they found a willing buyer. As Barry said, a brass plate and engraving can be had anywhere even by a dealer.
I also have my production order showing (oddly enough) a buyer's name (noted as COD) and dealer in Indiana when in fact the Mark II Encyclopedia and my original warranty papers for the car show it being sold and delivered in Oakland CA. Hell, I guess it's just yet another part of the mystique (s) of the Mark II and it's history.

[continentalguy]

Hmm blackwall tires that is interesting!

[Roger Zimmermann]

I think the firing order is clockwise, so that's the way you'd turn it.
Sorry, Barry: page 159 of the shop manual: "Direction of rotation is conterclockwise (viewed from above).

[Barry Wolk]

No need to be sorry. I don't mind being corrected. That's why I said, "I think"...............

[roger]

Thanks for the info, CCW it is!

I found a copy of Buddy Holiday's reference manual on ebay for 50 bucks. Haven't received it yet, so I don't know the condition of it.

[roger]

So, there are 2 Roger here! Welcome!
I have no Mark II, but I'm planing to do one , scale 1:12. See my presentation.
Good luck with your Mark II!
Roger

Man, those are great!

[roger]

yea, and he probably specified mud and snow tires for the rear

[Roger Zimmermann]

yea, and he probably specified mud and snow tires for the rear
Presently, I'm doing the master tire for the Avanti (contrary to what I was thinking, my master tire was too small in diameter to be modified for the Mark II). It's really a pain in the ... to manufacture tires, so I stay with summer tires!
By the way, snow tires just in the rear is a waste. Steering and braking are mostly done with the front axle; therefore the only way to go is 4 snow tires!